HTML5 Version

Feature Requests

  • I would love to see an HTML5 version of grooveshark (if its possible) especially one formatted for iphone use.

    I'm presuming apple doesn't like competition so haven't accepted grooveshark into their app store.

  • It's not really possible for the iPhone. The only way to play media is to have a Quicktime stream of a file, which would basically mean you couldn't change the song or anything, and it'd be rather pointless.

    Grooveshark does, however, have a jailbroken iPhone App available via Cydia. http://techcrunch.com/2010/02/26/grooveshark-iphone-app-cydia/

  • do we think theres ever a chance for it to appear in the app store?

  • Javascript-only mp3 players exist, too.

    When it cmoes down to it, though, Grooveshark devs are not interested in developing a HTML 5 version any time soon. It is on our very long queue list, though. Maybe in two years when HTML 5 is standardized and there's a larger adoption rate? It just doesn't make sense when a really large chunk of browsers won't be able to use Grooveshark.

    I see where you're coming from with HTML 5 for iPhone, though. Since I believe it is supported. I don';t think it's going to happen.

  • As far as browser support, IE8, Firefox and Chrome all support HTML5 to some extent and so I would already say that majority of browsers support HTML5. The only tag that seems to be lacking is the video tag.

  • IE 8 doesn't support a lot of HTML 5 or CSS 3, and the parts it does it doesn't support very well. IE 9 is a different story, but they won't be supporting it all (I talked to the IE lead dev). The only browser that supports HTML 5 and CSS 3 100% is Webkit.

  • HTML5 shouldn't be looked as an option; HTML5 is the future. The iPhone, the iPad and all Android phones support HTML5 (iPhone support will increase as the iPad becomes the defacto apple standard - look for full HTML5 support in iPhone V4). An HTML5 grooveshark will be a more efficient and overall better experience than the current flash experience - code once, deploy everywhere.

    Also, users still on IE will move up when their experience is impacted. ALL major sites are moving away from Flash - CNN, ABC, NBC, Yahoo, ESPN, Youtube... These sites are moving so they can be accessed and provide a good experience to iPad, iPhone, and Android devices (as well as everyone else) - NOT just phones. Code once, deploy everywhere. Flash is dead.

    Please Grooveshark, wow us again and ditch close and move to open. Move to HTML5.

  • This discussion has been had many times. It was just had again. We don't have the man power right now that other, large organizations have. We've invested a lot of time into our flash app. There's a possibility and enthusiasm for other, HTML5 products, but here are the biggest issues:

    * Flash works across every browser, every platform. HTML/CSS standards and implementation differs across every browser, on every OS. Firefox on Linux looks different than Firefox on Mac and Firefox on Windows. It's a mess. It will be even more of a nightmare with HTML 5's features, since the IE team isn't planning on fully implementing HTML 5 and CSS 3. And we can't just abandon IE users -- adoption rates show that user's don't really upgrade to the latest, most modern browsers until 1-2 years after its release. So, to appeal to the widest market base, there's no sense in stopping everything and making an HTML 5 product now.

    * Adobe/Flex offers a good library and a true MVC platform. True, this can be achieved with MVCs like Symfony (huge overhead) and jQuery, but ActionScript can be compiled down to bytecode and has JIT features. No browser javascript engine, although they've been improving and speeding up quite remarkably, provide this, except for one experimental Mozilla engine.

    * Security rubbish

    Grooveshark is excited for HTML 5 and it's on the mind of a lot of devs, but it will have to wait a while.

  • Dietbrisk:

    First, thanks for responding with real substance. It's yet another reason I love the crew at Grooveshark - you could have simply said no, but you didn't.

    Second, thanks for continuing to have the discussion about how to move Grooveshark forward. The current Adobe implementation is easily one of the best examples of how to correctly deploy software as a service online. At it's core is the simple fact that you found a solution that meets your current needs, and have mastered using it.

    The IE issue is very much an issue with HTML5 adoption. However, Apple continues to dictate the direction that the market heads, and for now it's running towards HTML5. I have to believe that IE will follow suit - just not fast enough to convince heavily adobe shops like yourself to switch until the market saturation makes sense.

    In the end, for now I'm content that you have a road-map and you continue interact with the community in how to make Grooveshark great. However, don't loose sight that a 1,000,000 potential VIP members - smart creative people who like to consume entertainment media - bought a device this weekend that will likely never have access to any Adobe app (or an Apple approved app that eats away at the iTunes store).

    Good luck and thanks for all the fish!

    Tim C.

  • Ha. We wish we had 1 million VIPs. :)

    I suspect Apple will support Flash sooner than IE supports HTML 5/CSS 3. The rumor is OS 4

  • Given the recent escalation(section 3.3.1) in the adobe-apple war I don't think so.

    Making a player with html5 audio tag and javascript is probably 2-5x less laborious than the flash app. You can always leave the flash app for legacy browsers like IE789 and allow access to the huge market of mobile ipads, iphones, adroids, etc.

    I use the android app and it's pretty unstable.

  • The odds of Apple supporting HTML5 are about equal to the odds of Apple switching back to PowerPC CPUs. It's not going to happen. I love Grooveshark and am proud to be a VIP user (it's well worth the money guys, trust me!) and I'd love to be able to buy an iPad and use Grooveshark. Most people aren't going to jailbreak an iPad and run the jailbreak app- I will, but I'm a huge geek and love the jailbreak world, and the vast majority of consumers doesn't. You've already done some work on an HTML grooveshark- the webOS Grooveshark app. It must be written in HTML, CSS and JavaScript, otherwise it wouldn't be a webOS app (it came out well before the PDK) And it's a great app. I use Grooveshark on my Pre Plus at least daily! I don't know where I'd be without it. You guys have created an awesome Flash app in Grooveshark, and I'd love to have an HTML5 version. I don't think you should dump flash once you make an HTML5 version though- you still need to keep it alive and up-to-par with the HTML5 version for the IE users. It doesn't need to be either/or. I hope you guys can do this sometime. You've got a lot on your plate, and you're doing a great job with Grooveshark- keep up the great work!

  • My ipad needs grooveshark. I would not mind working on a ipad HTML5 app.

    api PLEASE!!!

  • @xymor but flash has the advantage of displaying the same on every browser, every operating system, and even desktop apps. html is not so friendly, since each browser and operating system renders everything differently. security is the other issue.

    i can't comment anymore on grooveshark and html5

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